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Wednesday, December 15, 2021

Shadespyre Intro Post - OWAC V - The Kingdom of The Gnolls (An Orcs & Goblins Army)

OWAC V - This Time It's Gnolls (or is it Goblins?)

Where to start?

We could start back in 1980, with a couple of young-but-soon-to-be-famous miniature sculptors named Perry, making Gnolls (or are they Goblins) for a young-but-soon-to-be-famous miniatures company. These would be launched as Citadel's Fantasy Tribes Gnolls range, one of the first lines of dedicated fantasy miniatures they produced, before quickly being re-designated as Goblins - Great, Night and just Goblins - at the dawn of the C series era.

At much the same time, 10/11 year old me discovered D&D and The Lord of the Rings, and then Citadel miniatures, and so these are the Goblins I met first, which is why they are the best Goblins (or is it Gnolls?).

Like my last one (arguably, most of my ones, ever) this is a project driven by nostalgia, inspired by a random handful of miniatures, and then dialled up by over-ambition and my terrible urge to collect. It also owes a lot to another not-an-OWAC-but-very-OWACy project, my Brown Orc army, of which this was originally going to be a very small offshoot.


What in the name of The One True Ansell am I on about?

Look, here are some pictures of Gnolls (or is it Goblins?), all from the FTG range.

There are two main archetypes, those with bigger mostly bald heads, huge batlike ears and a rather apelike stance ("Great Gnolls") and those who are a little smaller, a little neater, and a lot more likely to be fully clothed or partly armoured (just "Gnolls"). Either group may sport a little tuft of hair. The latter are the style which was expanded on for new C-series Goblins, and looks more like the goblins of the later 1980s.

(It might as well be noted here that I have *no idea* why these were ever called Gnolls, the AD&D Monster Manual had already described the hyena-like Gnoll that is universal today, and surely everyone at Citadel must have been playing that game?)


So What's The Big Idea?

Back to that handful of inspiring miniatures. 

Exhibit A - not one, but two of these Gnoll Chieftain's Chariots. No one wants two identical models, so obviously the second chariot belongs to the Chieftain's other half? 



Exhibit B - This Gnoll General on a Boar. Check out that caparison. Obviously he really wants to be a noble Knight! Who do Knights serve? Kings! So now we have a Goblin King and his Queen.



Exhibit C - Gnorman the Gnoll. Or is it Gilbert the Goblin? (He is both, in fact). How could you look at this chap and not think "Huscarls"? And not then have to collect a bunch of his mates to form a Royal Guard?

So that's the Big Idea - the King and Queen of the Gnolls and their followers; from Gnoll Gnights down through Gnoll Huscarls and Gnolls-at-Arms to the Gnoll levy infantry. 

Oh, and then there's Lesser Goblins. Never known as Gnolls, as it happens. More of those, later.


Army List

Here's where it gets difficult. No Goblin army list I've ever seen has favoured bad-ass armoured Goblins with big axes, or elite Goblin Gnights, or anything other than mass ranks of WS2 Goblins, usually being bossed around by Orcs. The 3rd edition Warhammer Armies Orcs & Goblins list is very much an ORCS (oh okay & some goblins) list. Nonetheless, this is the list to which I have turned.

Why? Because of two things, really: Boars, and Lesser Goblins. All of the Gnoll cavalry figure ride boars, not wolves. So do the WA Orc cavalry. And then, if you count Gnolls as Goblins, what do you do with Lesser Goblins?

Just look at their little faces! Just look!


How could you not include these? Specifically, how could you not include these when you bought 100 of them off eBay? It would be criminal to use these as mere Snotlings!

And so, for the purposes of this list, I shall be counting Gnolls as Orcs and Lesser Goblins as Goblins (and ignoring the existence of Snotlings as they hadn't been invented yet). Almost everything immediately works!*

Yes, I know that gives my Gnolls Toughness 4, and I'm not so happy with that. And yes, I know they should be on 25mm bases, but that isn't happening - if they ever see a battlefield I will use movement trays to give them Orc-like spacing. One day I will write up a proper army list for them, using more sensible stat lines**, but that is much lower priority than painting them, I'm sure you'll agree.

This is my CORE list, then - meeting the requirements of the OWAC rules and (mostly***) the Warhammer Armies Orcs & Goblins list, as well as being pretty much the minimum I can do to get the "feel" of the force that I'm after.

Gnoll King                    (Orc Hero Level 20, Heavy Armour, Great Weapon)    121 points

Gnoll Queen                  (Orc Hero level 20, Heavy Armour, Lance)                  122 points

Gnoll Shaman                (Orc Wizard level 15)                                                    163 points    

2 x Royal Chariots        (Orc Battle Chariot w Shortbow, Scythed Wheels)      168 points

5x Gnoll Gnights           (Orc Snortas)                                                                 135 points

20 x Royal Huscarls       (Orc Biguns)                                                                190 points

20 x Gnolls-at-Arms       (Orc Arrer Boys w Shields)                                        190 points  

20 x Gnoll Levy               (Orc Boyz)                                                                  170 points

20 x Lesser Goblins        (Goblin Gobbos w Shields)                                            70 points

20 x Lesser Goblin Archers (Goblin Stickas w Shields)                                        80 points  

Just 108 models and 1409 points. No command models in there, as there's a bit of a lack of those to be had and I'll put off deciding where to use the few models I've got.


There are LOTS of potential extra models to add here - I have more cavalry, more infantry and many, many more lesser goblins, as well as some extra characters and "colour" models which I will try to paint alongside these if time allows. Else they will be used to continue the project on into the autumn, before turning my hand to the next OWAC (and yes, I think I know what that will be already!)



Did I mention that I'm painting them yellow? Like these:


This is a retro AD&D thing, just like when I painted my Orcs with brown skins. I'm using the new Citadel Hobgrot Hide base paint, which was a timely release for me! To be honest, there's enough green to it that I don't think it looks that different...


Overlord Gift

Oh yes, I almost forgot to show you my OWAC Overlord Offering! As last year I offered a Space Marine from the army I had most recently completed, I thought I would follow that lead and send one of Karnac's Lizardmen:


I think the pink works rather well here! I added a stolen Dwarf shield so I could get some more blue involved, and I've mislaid the last of the slate I used on my bases, so switched to these quartz chippings instead. I hope he'll do!


Footnotes
*except that the Orc chariots in the list are pulled by Wolves, not Boars
**in WH 1st Edition Great Goblins have pretty much a Human stat line 
***the WHA list has minimum units sizes of 10 for all the Orc cavalry - I'm only doing that if Nigel Stillman ponies up the extra cash to buy the models!

24 comments:

  1. Bonker stuff, all around! Very cool, and a big project (after last year...).

    You know, pink lizardmen are actually awesome. Everything's better in pink.

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    1. I'd definitely do more pink ones if I was starting that Lizardmen project again :)

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  2. Wow! Sooo many old figures! It looks great!

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  3. This is insane and will be so cool when finished.

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  4. That's a LOT of Oldhammer goodness right there!! Really looking forward to seeing this painted up.

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  5. One day I really must get around to painting mine own! Best of luck.

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  6. A truly ambitious and brilliant project: we have always wanted to see a whole army of fantasy tribe gnolls painted! We also appreciate the idea of ​​including these "gnolls / goblins" in a WHFB rulebook. For the reasons why these beings were called gnolls and then goblins, on which we have reflected at length, we would like to refer to some posts of our blog, which at the moment is almost monopolized by the project involving AD&D gnolls (in their aspect of hyena, however): https://rodorhammer.blogspot.com/2021/03/r-prehistory-of-gnolls-la-preistoria.html.
    We too have tried to lead gnolls back to a playable race of WHFB, choosing beastmen in that case. Good luck and we can't wait to see your progress!

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    1. Thanks! I will definitely go and look at your blog - gnolls are one of my favourite AD&D monsters and I have a small collection of the Citadel models, which remain the best ones in my view. I actually considered turning my ADD collection (bugbears, kobolds and all) into a Warhammer Orcs and Goblins army, but I think I will save them for a D&D based project.

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  7. Great project to a great theme. Looking forward to seeing this one develop.

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  8. There is a lot to love here! As an old school AD&D fan myself I completely agree about the mismatch between the description of Gnolls and these figures, but I love the idea of yellow skinned D&D style great goblins! :D

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    1. There's just something about a 7 foot hyena headed dude with a longbow, isn't there? Painting up all my favourite AD&D monsters is another thing on my To Do list...

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  9. Wow, what a force! Good luck with the challenge!

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  10. This is a serious old army!!!!

    Never seen mostly of the miniatures and I really like them.

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  11. The level of oldschoolness is impressive!

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  12. Gnoll Gnights - love it! XD

    I'm a big fan of all these old Goblins and Gnolls so this'll be a real treat.

    At the risk of stretching your budget after all that ebaying and possibly stating the obvious, but have you seen the Gnolls produced by Satanic Panic?

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    1. I couldn't help myself, sorry... ;)

      I've not heard of Satanic Panic at all (though I do remember the "D&D is Devil Worship" days) so I'll have to go have a look...

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  13. Lovely collection of old lead there, with a boatload of character! I'll be following your progress closely. Can't wait to see the results!

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  14. Have you seen the Gnoll and Goblin figures from Satanic Panic Miniatures? They are sculpted very much in the same style as these old figures. I think there are on holiday at the moment so the figures dont show up in their store at the moment.

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  15. Old gnolls! Such a gem of a range! I see a few mentions of Satanic Panic miniatures - but definitley go check them out - their gnoll range is designed to match perfectly with the older gnoll miniatures (the guy who runs it is great too!)

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